i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Cappytan " When will people get it that the onus is on the one making the claim to prove that claim"
Agreed.You should also note this thread is titled " Why do you no longer believe in God" so I assumed comments would offer evidence to that effect.
The Rebel.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Viviane your great. If you could give me a straight answer as why you say God does not exist I would appreciate it, otherwise continuing this conversation is going nowhere. Viviane I am an athiest, but you are the respected celebrated lawyer and expert on this board, alwaysgiving giving a funeral to those that believe in God. Personally I have no problem with that, if you could prove God does not exist. But you can't.
My conclusion is even Athiests like Viviane and the Rebel without being able to offer conclusive evidence God does not exist can be wrong.
The Rebel
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Viviane let me introduce myself, I am God and I am sure you have been hearing of my charity work? and my fight against injustice and poverty? Well I happened to be in court today when your thrilling address to the jury proved this was all bullshit. But that does not prove my non existence.
Viviane can you prove My non-existence?
kind Regards
God.
The Rebel.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Viviane I agree the responsibility should "lie with the one making the claim" But for illustration this is why I say " the responsibility does not lie with the one making the claim"
Now let's assume you just came from the election board. Viviane is now sitting on the bench and everything is absolutely legal. We have just discoverd that I voted more than once.Now this is wrong, but do my two votes count ? Unless you can disprove this matter I would suggest they do.
So can you prove God does not exist?
The Rebel.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Morpheus.
Thanks & Noted.
The Rebel.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Punk- " I'm confused. punk shuffles away and leaves quietly"
And the Rebel uses this to assume you were talking about " Onus Probandi" which you weren't.
Anyway in my definition Viviane " Onus Probandi" is a legal term shifting the burden of proof a person needs to proove their claim?
The Rebel.
p.s Morpheus i am not foolish enough to tankle with Viv, I am only trying to ask sincere questions.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Punk " The relevance of dust and bananas was explained well by the Rebel"
Punk ( Q) Reb,what did you say?
The Rebel ( A) Actually " Tecnaciousan " I believe was replying to my response to his mustard seed comment.
The Rebel.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Thanks for the quick reply Viviane. Am I therefore to assume you are saying the burden of proof lies with the one making the claim? If that is the case and you were to say "God does not exist" could you prove that?
The Rebel.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Viviane I am a little lost in the formation of your assertion. It appears to me you are simply stating your personal assurance God does not exist? I am sorry if I appear argumentative, ( I am new to not believing in God) please clarify how does your assertion prove or not prove the existence of God?
The Rebel.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
That which is supported by mere opinion can also be dismissed by mere opinion.
So here is my challenge, how can we prove or not prove this existence of a being whose non existence is inconcivable?
The Rebel.
